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Welcome to another episode of Rough Talk VR, a weekly podcast with in-depth game reviews, exclusive developer interviews and the latest metaquest and virtual reality news.
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We join our hosts, the father-son team of Dscruffles and Stratus, today as they spend another episode breaking down and discussing the world of virtual reality.
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Hey, welcome to this episode of Rough Talk.
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Vr coming at you with another edition of vr news with plenty to talk about, like all weeks, and you're coming at me today all dressed up, you know buttoned up with my work attire.
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Yeah, coming straight from nice lavender shirt from a work shift.
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Usually we record sunday sunday in the morning time because that's your day off, but unfortunately sunday evening.
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Yeah, you got called into work late last night.
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You got the call that.
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Well you know.
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Yeah, change of plans, it happens yep part of the not a lot.
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So I mean knock on wood my track record is pretty good.
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Your work's pretty understanding with it so we can't complain though yeah, that was brutal every week right, it made it tough to coordinate interviews and stuff because we didn't know which day off you were gonna have it was literally every weekend yeah, so I can't complain.
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This is like the first time since you've yeah, you've gotten that one, but but here we are and since we're recording late at night, it's going to be the only episode this week, but you know we'll try to make it doubly fun.
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Just uh, just to compensate and you know we were talking a little off air.
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As of right now, the podcast is sponsorless.
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I'll say no ad reads going on right now.
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Manscaped right now is not a current sponsor, adios.
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Yeah, unfortunately, you know that's the way business goes.
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Nobody has the same sponsor forever.
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No, you can't.
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Wow, we had them for like almost just about, if not maybe even a little bit more more.
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I'd have to go back and look.
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But it's not even about the, the product or anything like.
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That's like oh, that was a, that was a longtime friend saying bye to a friend.
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You could pull the band-aid quicker, you know.
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Yeah, so usually we do the patreon shout outs and stuff like that before our ad reads.
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But since there's no ad reads on this edition of vr news, let's give a shout out to our Patreon peeps to kick off the episode.
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You know the people that support us month after month and if you want to join this list as well, you can visit the link in our show notes.
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I'll plug that a little bit more after.
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But huge shout out to our Patreon supporters on our on-air shout out.
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Here we have Amelia Asim, mike Wentworth-Bell, aka Asp a sim.
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Mike wentworth, bell aka aspire, mike, aspire mike.
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We have tpz.
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We have jake carson, earth witness, crispy and shoes.
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So thank you all for your continued support.
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If you want to join that list, visit the link in our show notes to become a supporter of the rough dog re-art podcast.
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We have a couple different patreon tiers one with on-air shoutouts, one also with on-air shoutouts, your name across the bottom of a tier.
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One with no shout out.
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But you get access to an exclusive discord channel in our discord server which, by the way, I say it every week.
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Check out our discord server.
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It's the place to be a lot of cool game meetups, book discussion, music discussion, random off-topic discussion discussion.
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It's a good place.
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Got our Grimm channel man Grimm.
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Grimm Grimm.
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I think that we're going to make it.
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Amelia named it that right.
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Yeah, grimm, grimm, grimm.
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I wasn't sure if that was you or her, but when I had posted like can someone please make a Grimm channel?
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You're like, I'm fully capable of it, but I don Nah people work way too hard putting this together.
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And it keeps growing and evolving as well.
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Like a lot of Discord servers, we also had an influx of some annoying spam bots that we've cut out.
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We've finally gotten the kibosh on it, but I think that that was part of your fear, the only fans bot.
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Yeah, you're like, don't let me set up another server or another room and have it be disastrous.
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Yeah, I wasn't responsible for him coming in in the first place.
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So yeah, now we have a channel in there just for Grim discussion, because me, you and Chadwick are like three of what 69, 68 people that have access to Grim.
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I think Chadwick was 69.
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There's somebody in the Discord on the Grim side who keeps he's not a tester either, but he keeps track of how many tests.
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Yeah, because people are itching for it.
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So we're definitely.
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I'll say uh, lucky to have blessed.
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Yeah, fuck luck, that's just a blessing.
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Thank you, spoon, for access to that, but yeah, we even have a grim discussion.
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Yeah, building the army.
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And what's cool is when I posted I'm like because the reality of like, the magnitude of how this has to be played is really.
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The more I play it, the more I'm like, because the reality of like, the magnitude of how this has to be played is really.
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The more I play it, the more I'm realizing like, oh, we're gonna need legit.
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Well, think of it platoon, a group of six on at once.
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You know two people building, two people gathering resources and two people out exploring together.
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I'm talking the minimum, ideally 20, you know, the more the merrier dominate that server.
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But you can see how just six alone is just even.
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That is a ideal number.
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We took on the bear last night.
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Yeah, I got my ass kicked.
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Well, to be honest with you, to give ourselves the you know some credit.
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We took out a deer first, yeah, but deer ain't fighting back.
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You hit the deer with an arrow it runs away we hit that guy, like that deer, like three or four times before he dropped two.
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And I didn't want to say it while we were playing because I was the one like let's go kill this bear before we hop off.
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But I was like if the deer took three or four shots, oh, I did say it.
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I was like that bear is going to Instead of what we were running to, I'm like and like it took three shots, didn't it take three?
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shots to kill a deer.
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The bear is gonna kill us how many shots do we get?
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we got some shots on him, though I got off three shots on him.
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I know I hit him at least at least twice.
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I thought yeah, I definitely hit him twice.
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I hit him three times it was the easiest to hit him while he was chasing the other person yeah, no shit.
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But then once he killed you, then he's only chasing me.
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So that's how I think that's got to be the strategy if we go and fight him without better weapons.
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But I think we should just get better.
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We need some bandages or some shit, because the reality is is.
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I think he bit me when I was running over by and then you bled out and then, yeah, I was bleeding out because I I was counting down my own death.
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I'm like I think I'm dying.
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And I looked at him like, oh, I'm at 15, health now.
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Now I'm at six.
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I am dying, yep.
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Yep, that's how it ends.
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I'm like, yep, I'm dead, and after you died, yeah, that bear ate me, but we're getting the hang of things.
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We had a bunch of resources.
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Last night was real fun.
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Yeah, we're getting the hang of it.
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Walkabout meetups with a new course DLC drops, synth, rider Nights Guaranteed to find all the balls and you're going to play your 18 holes with a bunch of good people.
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VR social app meetups like Resonate and stuff like that, and then we have Shoes in there crushing it with GameKey giveaways as well, too.
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I don't know how he does it.
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Yeah, Shoes does a great job managing all that.
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I always secretly think shoes is really an inside man who just pretends to remember.
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We had that suspicion when we saw him in the game and then we saw him on the twilight zone wall and I was like I knew it and he was like no, I just helped on beta tests and stuff.
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But I was like yeah, I don't believe it, yet that's what he's.
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I mean, I'm still skeptical.
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You know what goes in front of shoes the word slippery and that's the act that's being played, but regardless no, there's a great job managing the giveaways and stuff.
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So fantastic.
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Everyone, everyone on the mod team is just.
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They're all like one nice unit, yeah so if you're a fan of the show, go check out the discord, go check out the patreon subscribe, rate us five stars, all that stuff.
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You know no ad reads today.
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But if you you know your studio, uh, publisher or anything like that you want to maybe talk about some ad reads and stuff like that, shoot us an email at damien at roughtalkvrcom.
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Look at that Custom domain email address too.
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That's D-A-M-I-E-N.
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Ooh, that is important to say.
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Huh At roughtalkcom.
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Rufftalkvrcom.
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There you go, I fucked it up too D roughtalkvrcom.
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There you go, I fucked it up too d-a-m-i-e-n at roughtalkvrcom.
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So that's why you're not getting my email there we go.
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So back on to the actual vr news.
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Now that we've had some fun ghosts of tabor, they have officially launched on the pico platform, maintaining cross-platform support as well, meaning that they're crazy.
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People on pico platforms live and servers get to play with ghost uh, with uh, pc players and with quest players.
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It's not its own specific servers for that platform.
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They look so nice on pcvr yeah they're doing a great job and it's cool because it looks pretty damn good on the quest 3 yeah but just just them, and I won't say it's like such a change that you're gonna go like holy shit.
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I'm never on the quest 3, yeah, but just just them, and I won't say it's like such a change that you're gonna go like holy shit, I'm never playing the quest 3 version again.
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It's not that drastic, but it's like where the changes are I'm like all right, this is.
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It's cool that you can tighten up the artwork like that yeah, they're playing on pcvr.
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For one, I'll say I'm so grateful for how seamless our pcvr experience has been yeah, I got it pretty much figured out.
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I turn on my computer, boop takes 15 seconds to boot up super fast.
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I log in do-do-do-do-do and then virtual desktop opens up by default and then I put on my headset, I open up virtual desk.
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It's literally like 60 seconds extra time in my setup process.
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It's so seamless.
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But I will say, pc VR has weirdly given me an appreciation for how good the quest 3's graphics are on standalone vr for some games, yeah it's like what I expected some things to look like.
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You know it just wasn't.
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Maybe I had unrealistic expectations after 100 because I expected pcvr to be doubly, if not triple, as good at graphics as the standalone VR, which, I'll be honest with you, they weren't.
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It was just like tighter resolution, extra details in spots.
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So I'm like, wow, the quest, the quest.
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Standalone headsets have come a long way yeah, it's holding its own.
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I mean, I'll admit it's definitely not PC VR, but in some games it's like it's close enough that it really doesn't matter.
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I think if we were to have hopped into PC VR when we had our Quest 2, would have been a much noticeable.
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Especially like when we first got the Quest 2.
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I put my Quest 2 on last week.
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Yeah, I told you about this experience like a month ago and you're like shut up, and now you experienced it too, and it's funny because the pass-through which to me at the time, the black and white pass-through I'm like I can live with it, I can see just fine around my room.
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But I was like, holy crap, is there something wrong with my headset?
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And I'm like, no, this is just how it was and it's pretty uncomfortable.
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It's bulky it's heavy it's kind of janky feeling it's got the weight.
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You can definitely feel the weight.
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And then, for for some reason and I don't want to get into what I had to put on my old quest three strap like the, the one that comes with the headset, yep, yeah, not good, not good.
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I.
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I instantly got it so I could put the the other one back on with the back support.
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But, man, the one thing I miss more than anything and it felt so good to pick up was the Kiwi extended grip controllers.
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Yeah, with the weight, I'm like, fuck, I miss these.
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We were so decked out on Kiwi gear, I don't care about the ring because I never really had a problem with it.
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But those things stay in your hand.
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Yeah.
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And the Papa grips is what I'll say.
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The really nice head strap too.
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I was like man, I miss you so much and I know you can modify it to fit, but I'm just not, I'm not drilling holes in it?
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No, and the battery's not going to support it, anyways, as far as actually charging the damn headset.
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But yeah, I it anyways as far as like actually charging the damn headset.
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So but yeah, I put the two on and I will say, if you're a two owner, oh mg, that difference is is monumental and we didn't feel that way when we first got the quest three.
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Remember our first night we were like, oh, this is kind of you know, I might even go back to the quest two just for because we have all the accessories and stuff like that yeah now I don't think I could not no, no, no.
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If I don't have to, it's cool to have it, but it's just a little piece now that can sit over there and if I don't have to wear it, I'm great but got a little sidetracked but ghosted to bore, officially launched on the pico platform.
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That's huge.
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That is, and I think you know, when they launch on psvr2 with no date of.
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All they've said is it's in the works, eventually it's going to come when it's ready.
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It's ready.
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There's no reason to rush anything, I'll give them props for going PSVR 2, because if they chose not to, it's not like anybody would be like well, yeah, but they're getting hounded about it.
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I see it in all the comments.
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Well, they're smart and you know Scott's going to hit every fucking platform he can hit.
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So I mean it's good.
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But I get it when developers are kind of like one eye in that whole area.
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But regardless, it's going to be huge for PSVR 2.
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It's going to look nice too, I bet.
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Yeah, that's what I was going to get at when that launches on PSVR 2, that's going to top the charts.
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That's going to be huge for that platform To have a game like ghost of tabor.
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Yeah yeah, and then just being able to drop your other games around the corner, it's, it's, it's pretty nice yeah, no, no news on when.
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Even in the upload vr article I saw of them announcing the pico platform launch at the bottom it was, like you know, ghost of tabor's comment on the psvr2 launch is quote unquote soon.
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But I think that that's good you don't set any official date, you don't rush yourself.
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Let it cook in the oven, let it marinate and then, when it's ready, it's ready.
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So that's going to be huge once they're on pcvr, quest, pico and psvr they're going to dominate, that's even more well, dude, they're already dominating.
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Do you think grim will be available on all those platforms too?
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I mean, we know it's going to be on psvr too.
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We saw him have the dev kit in the interview last week.
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Spoon there's no doubt so.
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The only one in question there is the pico platform I well, I mean, and I don't know how the whole side of business works, so everything you're going to hear is just pure speculation.
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But I I would think that once you've set up the network chain, that you have access to Pico people and you know what has to be done.
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Now you've done it for one game already.
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There's no reason you can't do it for another game.
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It's just once.
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You've already originally broken that ice and you know the process, just like getting on the store.
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I'm sure if you get your game on the store and you make a new game, you're going into it right off the bat with a much deeper understanding of what you should be doing from day one.
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Yeah, the developers of Space Pirate Trainer.
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So yes, I will say.
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I would assume sooner or later it would end up on the Pico.
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Yeah, and the second one.
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You said, like the developers of Space Pirate Trainer, they made BAM Look at BAM.
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They made BAM Look at BAM, got right on the story Iron Strike that's made by the same developer as Iron Lights.
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I mean you learn right.
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I mean it's like anything else.
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You get those connections too.
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Correct, it makes sense.
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It seems like a lot of any industry is who you know, those connections and everything.
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The who you know is the.
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It's like the unwritten rule of any industry.
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I've gotten.
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I've gotten two jobs in my life because of who I know, not what I know, and neither one of which I was qualified for.
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Yeah, it's the unwritten rule of any industry.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, because people know the person.
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If you know somebody and you really know them as a person, let's say they're genuinely a good person, you know they're a hardworking person, they're dedicated, they have all these qualities you can set them up with that opportunity to you know.
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I mean, I guess it's a gamble either way, but it's a gamble I think you're less likely to lose Because you actually know the human being.
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Unless it's surgery or court, you pretty much figure out anything you know.
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So it's just up to the individual.
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But yes, it's surgery or court, you pretty much figure out anything you know.
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So it's just up to the individual.
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And but yes, it's who you know, dude.
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Yeah, in other news, wanderers, the fragments of fate one of my most upcoming you know, upcoming hyped games in the whole vr industry right now.
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It's a remaster of the original wanderer, which was available only on pc vr.
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This one's going to be available also on PC VR, but also Quest and PlayStation VR too.
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It's going to have everything from the original game plus it sounds like some extra content.
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I'm so hyped for it.
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It was supposed to come out June 27th.
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Unfortunately, last week the developers announced that they need to delay it until September 12th.
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But even though how hyped I am for it like I said, it's one of my most hyped upcoming vr games I'm not exactly sad to see it delayed, because I would rather see it delayed two, three months, whatever, and have it released properly than them, you know, cut content or have bugs or have a sloppy launch just to meet that june 27th deadline oh yeah, I mean that's.
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They don't usually hold it back just for shits and giggles, yeah, so there had something came up.
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There had to be a bug or maybe they they weren't meeting as fast progress as they thought but for whatever reason, wanderer, the, the tales, the fragments of fate wander, the fragments of fate delayed until september 12th.
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But again, again, I'm hyped, but I'm not crying about it, because if it means a proper launch I'm happy.
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That's all.
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I need.
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And then, in other news, niantic they're the, the makers of Pokemon go, the AR app that everybody's, everybody's heard of at at this point.
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Uh, they, they launched a new app on the Quest 3 called Hello Dot, and it's a demo.
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It's free, so you don't need to pay anything for it.
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It's not really the most in-depth or anything, but it puts this little virtual pet thing in your living room.
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Pokey pet.
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Yeah, I don't know, it's not Pokemon, but let's be honest, let's call it what it is Like a cross between Pokemon and Digimon shit.
